2010 ABS Auction
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Re: 2010 ABS Auction
i agree with fred on this one.
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That's a good point -- it's no fun "winning" the online auction only to lose later at the live auction.
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Re: 2010 ABS Auction
Perhaps the online auction could go live on bambooweb to allow competing bids to be received. It could be something as simple as bids being posted in chat and competing bids being PMed to a responsible party.
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Or perhaps their could be an on-line auction that ends on-line and a live auction for plants that are transported to the annual meeting. That way the on-line folks could really 'win' and the plants they won would not need to go to the meeting site?foxd wrote:Perhaps the online auction could go live on bambooweb to allow competing bids to be received. It could be something as simple as bids being posted in chat and competing bids being PMed to a responsible party.
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Good ideas. Can we poll members the site suggestion forum? rgds
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It could also be that the online auction plants have a "reserve", and if that's not met, the plant still goes to the live auction.
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Re: 2010 ABS Auction
I stir the pot, then forget to check back in.....
I know that for me, the fact that the plants I was interested in would be probably taken at the live auction stopped me from even trying. The rare stuff is like that.
I do think that the economy has alot to do with it, plus some contributors shipping prices. A one gallon plant shipped to the same shipping zone for $15? I guess I'm spoiled by fred and his willingness to charge only actual cost- but I guess the nursery had to make up for materials and labor.
Ideas for increase success in auction revenues:
I wonder if any would donate shipping too?
Simplify the process for donors? When I was helping with the auction, the top reasons for not donating seemed to be not wanting to deal with shipping, followed by people not having stuff to donate.
-if one person who was willing to take the time to gather the plants for a region, and take the time to ship, that could solve some of it....then how is the shipping paid for....
-in the above scenario, the letter about the auction could go out in late winter, giving folks a heads up on digging donations, then the regional person could pick up the plants between then and the time of shipping after the auction, our before, just to make sure the plants were actually available...
last thoughts, in years past, it seems to me the most money has come from people who own the nurseries buying the rare plants that were just being released. Not too many private collectors can pay what a large nursery is going to be willing to, and now, many of the plants donated are common species that most of us have, or as already stated, won't make it in some climates. Since the auction seems to be drawing mostly booweb people, maybe opening it up by having a craigslist ad that members can post in their various regions with a brief statement about the ABS, and a link directly to the auction page? Don't know if that would create some interest in the common plants?
I know that for me, the fact that the plants I was interested in would be probably taken at the live auction stopped me from even trying. The rare stuff is like that.
I do think that the economy has alot to do with it, plus some contributors shipping prices. A one gallon plant shipped to the same shipping zone for $15? I guess I'm spoiled by fred and his willingness to charge only actual cost- but I guess the nursery had to make up for materials and labor.
Ideas for increase success in auction revenues:
I wonder if any would donate shipping too?
Simplify the process for donors? When I was helping with the auction, the top reasons for not donating seemed to be not wanting to deal with shipping, followed by people not having stuff to donate.
-if one person who was willing to take the time to gather the plants for a region, and take the time to ship, that could solve some of it....then how is the shipping paid for....
-in the above scenario, the letter about the auction could go out in late winter, giving folks a heads up on digging donations, then the regional person could pick up the plants between then and the time of shipping after the auction, our before, just to make sure the plants were actually available...
last thoughts, in years past, it seems to me the most money has come from people who own the nurseries buying the rare plants that were just being released. Not too many private collectors can pay what a large nursery is going to be willing to, and now, many of the plants donated are common species that most of us have, or as already stated, won't make it in some climates. Since the auction seems to be drawing mostly booweb people, maybe opening it up by having a craigslist ad that members can post in their various regions with a brief statement about the ABS, and a link directly to the auction page? Don't know if that would create some interest in the common plants?
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Re: 2010 ABS Auction
Im wondering when the results are going to be posted? I would like to know if i didn't win,or how bad i was out bid.
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Re: 2010 ABS Auction
Mike,millerlightman02 wrote:Im wondering when the results are going to be posted? I would like to know if i didn't win,or how bad i was out bid.
I sill have not received the results that has the winners so I can send out emails and post the results here.
I did mark my proxy list during the auction and unfortunately you did not win anything.
The "Juizaigou 10" went for $80 unfortunately during the auction I had bid $75 on your behalf and the next bid matched your max bid.
The "Genf" went for $60.
The Parvifolia went for $75.
I will post more when I get a day off or get the results from the SE Chapter.
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A couple of other things may have had an impact; 1) The auction was in November, a time when a lot of people have stopped purchasing plants for the year. 2) Bamboo Sourcery was swamped with people purchasing bamboo at 50% off, end of business prices. I used their prices to set my bid highs. Folks may have elected to buy from them directly rather than buy via the auction. Rgds
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Re: 2010 ABS Auction
Still no results? Curious as to who won what,and how much.
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Here is the list and winners.
The numbers are the winners auction number.
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plant.................................... Bidder and name
Fargesia sp .‘Tabishan 2 ’ 1 gal............. #200 -- Adam Williams
Borinda papyrifera 1 gal.............. #30 -- Cheryl Crone
Fargesia ‘Jiuzhaigou’ IV 1 gal.......... #27 -- David King
Borinda albocerea 1gal............... #69 -- Cliff Sussman
Borinda fungosa ‘White Cloud’ 2 gal............ #63 -- Jim Best
Borinda Macclureana “Grossa” 2 gal............ #63 -- Jim Best
Borinda lushiensis Yunnan 4 1 gal............. #63 -- Jim Best
Yushania brevipaniculata ‘Wolong’ 1 gal.......... #51 -- Lloyd DuBois
Fargesia adpressa 1 gal.......... #63 -- Jim Best
Fargesia ‘Jiuzhaigou’ X 1 gal........... #63 -- Jim Best
Fargesia Juizhaigou 'Genf'........... #63 -- Jim Best
Phyllostachys parvifolia 2 gal ...........#18 -- Margie krebs-Jespersen
Cusquea cumingii 1 gal........... #70 -- Scott Ritchie
Phyllostachys aurea ‘Albovariegata’ 2 gal........... #51 -- Lloyd DuBois
Phyllostachys aurea ‘Dr. Don’ 2 gal........... #26 -- Jim Bussey
Phyllostachys vivax ‘Huangwenzhu Inversa’ 1 gal........... #30 -- Cheryl Crone
Shibataea nanpinensis 2 gal........... #63 -- Jim Best
Ph. viridis 'Houzeau'........... #72 -- Tracy Calla
Pleioblastus argenteostriatus 'Goldstripe'........... #63 -- Jim Best
Ph. nigra 'Henon' ........... #52 -- Frasier Bingham
Phyllostachys nigra 'Henon' "Dwarf"........... #63 -- Jim Best
Phyllostachys flexuosa 'Kimmei Aureostriata'........... #18 -- Margie krebs-Jespersen
Ph. bambusoides 'Aureostriata'........... #73 --Ned Jaquith
Chimonocalamus pallens (flowering)........... #73 -- Ned Jaquith
Phyllostachys bambusoides 'Leprechaun Gold' 1........... #63 -- Jim Best
Phyllostachys bambusoides 'Leprechaun Gold' 2........... #73 -- Ned Jaquith
Phyllostachys bambusoides 'Leprechaun Gold' 3........... #18 -- Margie Krebs-Jespersen
Phyllostachys bambusoides 'Leprechaun Gold' 4........... #63 -- Jim Best
Phyllostachys bambusoides 'Leprechaun Gold' 5........... #70 -- Scott Ritchie
Phyllostachys bambusoides 'Leprechaun Gold' 6........... #6 -- James Bonner
Phyllostachys bambusoides 'Leprechaun Gold' 7........... not auctioned
Phyllostachys bambusoides 'Leprechaun Gold' 8........... not auctioned
Phyllostachys bambusoides 'Leprechaun Gold' 9........... not auctioned
Phyllostachys bambusoides 'Leprechaun Gold' 10........... #50 -- Bill King
Fargesia rufa 5gal........... #200 -- Brad Salmon
Qiongzhuea tumidissoda "Chinese Walking Stick" 3gal........... #200 -- Daniel Holmes
Ph. nigra Hale 5gal #2........... #200 -- Gerhard Bock
Ph. nigra Hale 5gal........... #63 -- Jim Best
Chimonobambusa marmorea "Marbled Bamboo" 5gal........... #63 -- Jim Best
Otatea acuminata "Mexican Weeping Bamboo" 5gal........... #30 -- Cheryl Crone
Chusquea sulcata - 3gal........... not auctioned
Fargesia robusta 5gal........... #63 -- Jim Best
Thamnocalamus aristatus 5gal........... #63 -- Jim Best
B. multiplex Tiny Fernleaf 5gal........... #63 -- Jim Best
Indocalamus pumilis - 2 gal........... #49
Hibanobambusa tranquillans - 1 gal........... #63 -- Jim Best
Bambusa multiplex 'Lucky Silverstripe' - 3 gal........... #50 -- Bill King
Bambusa multiplex 'Midori Green' - 3 gal........... #63 -- Jim Best
Indocalamus victorialis -- 2 gal........... #70 -- Scott Ritchie
Phyllostachys edulis -- moso seedling -- 5 gal........... #70 -- Scott Ritchie
Bashania fargesii -- 5 gal........... #63 -- Jim Best
Sasa sachalenensis -- 10 gallon........... #6 -- James Bonner
Semiarundinaria kagamiana -- 1 gal........... #63 -- Jim Best
Sinobambusa macrophylla -- 1 gal........... withdrew from auction
Fargesia f. 'Rufa' from Wolfgang Oehme (Baltimore, MD)........... #63 -- Jim Best
Phyllostachys decora Green Beauty ™ - 1gal........... #72 -Tracy Calla
Phyllostachys nigra Black Jade ™ - 1gal........... #6 -- James Bonner
Phyllostachys vivax 'Huanwenzhu' - 2gal........... #72 -- Tracy Calla
Bambusa textilis 'Gracilis'-2gal........... #62 -- Steve Stamper
Pseudosasa amabilis-3gal........... #70 -- Scott Ritchie
Phyllostachys nigra 'Megurochiku'-3gal........... #63 -- Jim Best
Bambusa Oldhamii........... #33
Bambusa Oldhamii........... #33
Bambusa Gibba........... #2 -- Leonard Daszkiewicz
Charissa Brock Artwork........... Kyoshi Yoshida
Enter the Oriente CD........... Bill Hollenback
Secrets of Bamboo CD........... Leonard Daszkiewizc
Secrets of Bamboo CD........... Bill Hollenback
Bamboo Rain CD........... Leonard Daszkiewizc
Natural Illumination CD........... Tracy Cato
David Fairchild book........... #27 -- David King
China's Bamboos........... Andy Ringle
Beverly Messenger's book........... #63 -- Jim Best
Giant bamboo pole........... Steve Stamper
The numbers are the winners auction number.
Bill
plant.................................... Bidder and name
Fargesia sp .‘Tabishan 2 ’ 1 gal............. #200 -- Adam Williams
Borinda papyrifera 1 gal.............. #30 -- Cheryl Crone
Fargesia ‘Jiuzhaigou’ IV 1 gal.......... #27 -- David King
Borinda albocerea 1gal............... #69 -- Cliff Sussman
Borinda fungosa ‘White Cloud’ 2 gal............ #63 -- Jim Best
Borinda Macclureana “Grossa” 2 gal............ #63 -- Jim Best
Borinda lushiensis Yunnan 4 1 gal............. #63 -- Jim Best
Yushania brevipaniculata ‘Wolong’ 1 gal.......... #51 -- Lloyd DuBois
Fargesia adpressa 1 gal.......... #63 -- Jim Best
Fargesia ‘Jiuzhaigou’ X 1 gal........... #63 -- Jim Best
Fargesia Juizhaigou 'Genf'........... #63 -- Jim Best
Phyllostachys parvifolia 2 gal ...........#18 -- Margie krebs-Jespersen
Cusquea cumingii 1 gal........... #70 -- Scott Ritchie
Phyllostachys aurea ‘Albovariegata’ 2 gal........... #51 -- Lloyd DuBois
Phyllostachys aurea ‘Dr. Don’ 2 gal........... #26 -- Jim Bussey
Phyllostachys vivax ‘Huangwenzhu Inversa’ 1 gal........... #30 -- Cheryl Crone
Shibataea nanpinensis 2 gal........... #63 -- Jim Best
Ph. viridis 'Houzeau'........... #72 -- Tracy Calla
Pleioblastus argenteostriatus 'Goldstripe'........... #63 -- Jim Best
Ph. nigra 'Henon' ........... #52 -- Frasier Bingham
Phyllostachys nigra 'Henon' "Dwarf"........... #63 -- Jim Best
Phyllostachys flexuosa 'Kimmei Aureostriata'........... #18 -- Margie krebs-Jespersen
Ph. bambusoides 'Aureostriata'........... #73 --Ned Jaquith
Chimonocalamus pallens (flowering)........... #73 -- Ned Jaquith
Phyllostachys bambusoides 'Leprechaun Gold' 1........... #63 -- Jim Best
Phyllostachys bambusoides 'Leprechaun Gold' 2........... #73 -- Ned Jaquith
Phyllostachys bambusoides 'Leprechaun Gold' 3........... #18 -- Margie Krebs-Jespersen
Phyllostachys bambusoides 'Leprechaun Gold' 4........... #63 -- Jim Best
Phyllostachys bambusoides 'Leprechaun Gold' 5........... #70 -- Scott Ritchie
Phyllostachys bambusoides 'Leprechaun Gold' 6........... #6 -- James Bonner
Phyllostachys bambusoides 'Leprechaun Gold' 7........... not auctioned
Phyllostachys bambusoides 'Leprechaun Gold' 8........... not auctioned
Phyllostachys bambusoides 'Leprechaun Gold' 9........... not auctioned
Phyllostachys bambusoides 'Leprechaun Gold' 10........... #50 -- Bill King
Fargesia rufa 5gal........... #200 -- Brad Salmon
Qiongzhuea tumidissoda "Chinese Walking Stick" 3gal........... #200 -- Daniel Holmes
Ph. nigra Hale 5gal #2........... #200 -- Gerhard Bock
Ph. nigra Hale 5gal........... #63 -- Jim Best
Chimonobambusa marmorea "Marbled Bamboo" 5gal........... #63 -- Jim Best
Otatea acuminata "Mexican Weeping Bamboo" 5gal........... #30 -- Cheryl Crone
Chusquea sulcata - 3gal........... not auctioned
Fargesia robusta 5gal........... #63 -- Jim Best
Thamnocalamus aristatus 5gal........... #63 -- Jim Best
B. multiplex Tiny Fernleaf 5gal........... #63 -- Jim Best
Indocalamus pumilis - 2 gal........... #49
Hibanobambusa tranquillans - 1 gal........... #63 -- Jim Best
Bambusa multiplex 'Lucky Silverstripe' - 3 gal........... #50 -- Bill King
Bambusa multiplex 'Midori Green' - 3 gal........... #63 -- Jim Best
Indocalamus victorialis -- 2 gal........... #70 -- Scott Ritchie
Phyllostachys edulis -- moso seedling -- 5 gal........... #70 -- Scott Ritchie
Bashania fargesii -- 5 gal........... #63 -- Jim Best
Sasa sachalenensis -- 10 gallon........... #6 -- James Bonner
Semiarundinaria kagamiana -- 1 gal........... #63 -- Jim Best
Sinobambusa macrophylla -- 1 gal........... withdrew from auction
Fargesia f. 'Rufa' from Wolfgang Oehme (Baltimore, MD)........... #63 -- Jim Best
Phyllostachys decora Green Beauty ™ - 1gal........... #72 -Tracy Calla
Phyllostachys nigra Black Jade ™ - 1gal........... #6 -- James Bonner
Phyllostachys vivax 'Huanwenzhu' - 2gal........... #72 -- Tracy Calla
Bambusa textilis 'Gracilis'-2gal........... #62 -- Steve Stamper
Pseudosasa amabilis-3gal........... #70 -- Scott Ritchie
Phyllostachys nigra 'Megurochiku'-3gal........... #63 -- Jim Best
Bambusa Oldhamii........... #33
Bambusa Oldhamii........... #33
Bambusa Gibba........... #2 -- Leonard Daszkiewicz
Charissa Brock Artwork........... Kyoshi Yoshida
Enter the Oriente CD........... Bill Hollenback
Secrets of Bamboo CD........... Leonard Daszkiewizc
Secrets of Bamboo CD........... Bill Hollenback
Bamboo Rain CD........... Leonard Daszkiewizc
Natural Illumination CD........... Tracy Cato
David Fairchild book........... #27 -- David King
China's Bamboos........... Andy Ringle
Beverly Messenger's book........... #63 -- Jim Best
Giant bamboo pole........... Steve Stamper
Re: 2010 ABS Auction
holy cow, there's one called henon dwarf! Think that's what I got growing up here in Iowa
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Re: 2010 ABS Auction
you could claim more than just Henon dwarf there!