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 Post subject: Re: Good news, bad news
PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 4:50 pm 
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And I think some people have C culeou also in flower? Makes me wonder if they all are different clones of the same thing, I suspect there are folks who can prove otherwise but still. I collected native A gigantea in Indiana several years ago and one of the groves had a demarcation line where the physical attributes of the plant suddenly changed - a section of attractive dark green bamboo in the 8-10 foot range suddenly turned into something about 3-4 feet high that filled the rest of the space. Seeing them in another context you would not connect the dots...

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 Post subject: Re: Good news, bad news
PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:33 pm 
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Location: plus 700ft in the Santa Cruz Mtns, 8 miles from the Pacific 35 miles S. of San Jose
Ref. ABS species list Gigantea " is closely allied with C. culeou". How it's allied is not indicated. Rgds


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 Post subject: Re: Good news, bad news
PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:53 pm 
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Color on seed clusters continues to fade as clusters dry out and seeds drop. Volume of dropped seeds up substantially. Size of seeds is far less than I projected. Small and light means more seed potential spread of Gen. 2 (?). Last call for folks who want seeds.


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 Post subject: Re: Good news, bad news
PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:57 am 
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Location: plus 700ft in the Santa Cruz Mtns, 8 miles from the Pacific 35 miles S. of San Jose
updated photo of a seed cluster. Pull test indicates seeds hold firm until plant is ready to release them.


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 Post subject: Re: Good news, bad news
PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:58 am 
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Photo of tarp under the plant to catch seeds.


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 Post subject: Re: Good news, bad news
PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:03 pm 
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Volume of seeds falling off has increased dramatically. The seed size of fallen seeds seems to have increased as seeds from the mid-area of the clusters fall.
Last week I indicated that most seeds were still firmly attached. This is no longer the case. Estimated count of seeds dropped to date is difficult. I would give it a very rough estimate of 1000 to 1500 seeds with at least an equal amount still attached. Free seeds are still available.


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 Post subject: Re: Good news, bad news
PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:05 pm 
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Photo show seeds pushing away from seed clusters prior to detaching.


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 Post subject: Re: Good news, bad news
PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:00 pm 
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Although there are still some seeds on the plant, I cut off the culms that flowered. I read on the ABS website, some time ago, that there was a chance you could get the non-flowering culms to live if you carefully separated them from the flowering culms. Unfortunately the separation technique has been deleted so I had to wing it. I believe that I achieved a good separation and have replanted four non-flowering culms.


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 Post subject: Re: Good news, bad news
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:29 pm 
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Re flower free Llaima culms that I segregated and transplanted - alive and well. Re seeds planted 6/3/19 and after - no sign of new plants.


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 Post subject: Re: Good news, bad news
PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:41 pm 
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Llaima (I was misspelling it Lliama) update: Planted first seeds 4 mths ago. No seedlings have been produced. Others who recvd seeds have also reported no results re seedlings. I segregated 4 culms that showed no signs of flowering. 1 started to flower a couple of weeks ago. Two other growers of Llaima have reported no flowering. All come from the same mother plant. Pretty confusing. Rgds


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