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And I think some people have C culeou also in flower? Makes me wonder if they all are different clones of the same thing, I suspect there are folks who can prove otherwise but still. I collected native A gigantea in Indiana several years ago and one of the groves had a demarcation line where the physical attributes of the plant suddenly changed - a section of attractive dark green bamboo in the 8-10 foot range suddenly turned into something about 3-4 feet high that filled the rest of the space. Seeing them in another context you would not connect the dots...
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Ref. ABS species list Gigantea " is closely allied with C. culeou". How it's allied is not indicated. Rgds
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Color on seed clusters continues to fade as clusters dry out and seeds drop. Volume of dropped seeds up substantially. Size of seeds is far less than I projected. Small and light means more seed potential spread of Gen. 2 (?). Last call for folks who want seeds.
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updated photo of a seed cluster. Pull test indicates seeds hold firm until plant is ready to release them.
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Photo of tarp under the plant to catch seeds.
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Volume of seeds falling off has increased dramatically. The seed size of fallen seeds seems to have increased as seeds from the mid-area of the clusters fall.
Last week I indicated that most seeds were still firmly attached. This is no longer the case. Estimated count of seeds dropped to date is difficult. I would give it a very rough estimate of 1000 to 1500 seeds with at least an equal amount still attached. Free seeds are still available.
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Photo show seeds pushing away from seed clusters prior to detaching.
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Although there are still some seeds on the plant, I cut off the culms that flowered. I read on the ABS website, some time ago, that there was a chance you could get the non-flowering culms to live if you carefully separated them from the flowering culms. Unfortunately the separation technique has been deleted so I had to wing it. I believe that I achieved a good separation and have replanted four non-flowering culms.
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Re flower free Llaima culms that I segregated and transplanted - alive and well. Re seeds planted 6/3/19 and after - no sign of new plants.
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Llaima (I was misspelling it Lliama) update: Planted first seeds 4 mths ago. No seedlings have been produced. Others who recvd seeds have also reported no results re seedlings. I segregated 4 culms that showed no signs of flowering. 1 started to flower a couple of weeks ago. Two other growers of Llaima have reported no flowering. All come from the same mother plant. Pretty confusing. Rgds
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When the Lliama flowered, I came across a experiment done on flowering plants where non flowering culms mixed with flowering culms were dug out and replanted after pruning off roots closest to the flowering culms. I dug out 4 culms and replanted them. Several months have gone by and 3 of the 4 culms are still alive. Rgds
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