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 Post subject: You're next DC area!
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:09 pm 
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The bamboo-is-evil crusade is starting to spread:

http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/marylan ... lem-042512

Once you see a local news report about bamboo, you know legislation is coming soon.

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 Post subject: Re: You're next DC area!
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:37 pm 
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At least this case would be a homeowner going against a municipality. That's our best hope for pushback from the city- when money is coming out of the city's pockets to correct an issue.

It seems that there always seems to be a lot of flack from realtors. Maybe something could be done to get the word out to realtors that bamboo can be controlled and that, furthermore, many folks are attracted to the plant and get impatient waiting for a grove to establish itself. Heck, maybe even some kind of listing service for properties that already have established groves of bamboo could help. Just some ideas.

I suspect the real issue with realtors is just that the housing market has tanked and it is a lot more difficult to make a buck in real estate than it used to be. So, any perceived obstacle gets magnified.


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 Post subject: Re: You're next DC area!
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Boo.

I think the article contradicts itself.
She wants tranquility but is asking for bulldozers to come in?
What's more tranquil than bamboo?
Why didn't she kick it over when it was inches instead of feet?

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 Post subject: Re: You're next DC area!
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oZmonKey wrote:
Boo.

I think the article contradicts itself.
She wants tranquility but is asking for bulldozers to come in?
What's more tranquil than bamboo?
Why didn't she kick it over when it was inches instead of feet?


It does seem like statues of Buddha naturally belong in a bamboo grove.

Maybe she got advice from Caryn Rickel, whom I recently saw advising someone to let their "invasion" grow, so they could take pictures and then proceed, with her help, in getting laws passed.


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 Post subject: Re: You're next DC area!
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Jeff: Igor's Apprentice wrote:
Maybe she got advice from Caryn Rickel, whom I recently saw advising someone to let their "invasion" grow, so they could take pictures and then proceed, with her help, in getting laws passed.


Jeff, can you provide a link to this? Her tactics need to be publicized so that people can see how she operates.

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 Post subject: Re: You're next DC area!
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Jeff: Igor's Apprentice wrote:
At least this case would be a homeowner going against a municipality. That's our best hope for pushback from the city- when money is coming out of the city's pockets to correct an issue.
Unless their response is to wipe out the entire grove. In my suburban St. Louis city, the city owns the property between the street and the sidewalk (including the sidewalk). It is the homeowner's responsibility to care for that strip though, so if you have a tree there that needs to be taken down or trimmed, the city won't do it or help cover the costs. When talking to the public works director about this, he said that if the city was responsible for all of those trees they'd just cut them all down, as it would be too expensive to maintain them. He may have been only half serious, but that's what it comes down to sometimes: money.

Keep in mind that rhizome pruning may be a lot of work for many people. In that DC story the homeowner was disabled for instance.

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 Post subject: Re: You're next DC area!
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Jeff: Igor's Apprentice wrote:
Maybe she got advice from Caryn Rickel, whom I recently saw advising someone to let their "invasion" grow, so they could take pictures and then proceed, with her help, in getting laws passed.


Jeff, can you provide a link to this? Her tactics need to be publicized so that people can see how she operates.


It took me awhile to find it and I had to surf through a lot of pictures of the invasive lupines to get to it..
but its on her website...

http://www.facebook.com/InstituteOfInvasiveBambooResearch?ref=tn_tnmn

At the top of the Page where it says "Recent Posts by Others" you have to expand to "See All", then near the bottom it goes like this:
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Season Orris Ciechanowski

I'm soooooo glad you popped up on one of the pages I was on! I just hacked 12 bamboo stalks out of the yard next door that were threatening my garden and yard. my neighbor's bamboo came up in my yard and garden this year. How do I make it stop??!! Cutting it down is not a long-term option to me, I just want it to stay out of my damn yard and veggie garden.

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Institute of Invasive Bamboo Research I am also so glad you saw this page. This is the worst destructive invasive. Please let the invasion grow , do not cut it. Send me a picture and I will run a story for you here. You will need your town to make an ordinance. I will help you. This is very serious..
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Institute of Invasive Bamboo Research Cutting and mowing do nothing to stop it.
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Institute of Invasive Bamboo Research You need to let the invasion grow, and take the picture, then have your town work with me for an ordinance.


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 Post subject: Re: You're next DC area!
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:24 pm 
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I find it kind of humorous how the facebook exchange I quoted above starts out:
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I just hacked 12 bamboo stalks out of the yard next door that were threatening my garden and yard.


How does a culm growing in your neighbor's yard "threaten" your garden and yard? That's right... just go ahead and chop down your neighbor's plants when you feel threatened. Boo! Did that scare you?


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 Post subject: Re: You're next DC area!
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I don't know why I read these threads (even though I start them). They are too upsetting.

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 Post subject: Re: You're next DC area!
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She does openly admit to banning people and censuring anything that goes against her, just like she did on the patch articles. I told her to stop using my picture, and she banned me, so there's probably hundreds of other people she has been banning as well. She really has no morals or respect for anyone else.

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Hi All,
If you have any bamboo that needs removal please let me know and we can remove it all. Bamboo as agriculture and commercial components is very important economically. However, planting them close to flower gardens and plastic pools might not be a good idea. Its like planting willow trees or ivy's. It is not noxious and scientifically purifies the soil. Please advise if we can work something out with us to get rid of all of it for anyone who has problems with it?
2 hours ago near Stoney Creek, Ontario

Season Orris Ciechanowski I don't think it is ever good to plant this particular bamboo in a non-native country off of a plantation. Neither does most of Asia. If you lived in Pittsburgh I would love to have you remove ALL OF IT never to be seen again. I have veggies and NATIVE PLANTS to plant...:)
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Vincent Cruz Villanis Hi,
Yah over 5 million acres of bamboo was native to eastern U.S. how much bamboo do you have? I have family down there and am sure we can arrange something if its in a mass scale?
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Institute of Invasive Bamboo Research This is a seller , not welcome here.


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Debra Simmons Barefoot I read you are being sued for using personal content and Ebay listings without authorization. Do you have an attorney? An attorney can help reduce your prison sentence and keep your fines at the minimum.
about an hour ago · LikeUnlike.Debra Simmons Barefoot Do you have a court date? I am making copies of your malicious slander and unauthorized use of Ebay's property and photos.
about an hour ago · LikeUnlike.Debra Simmons Barefoot I am forwarding them to our offices. If you need an attorney please contact us and have a $2500.00 retainer.
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I'm not sure if she contacted patch, or someone reported her for spamming, but one of these articles has the comments closed.
http://huntington.patch.com/articles/ba ... -town-hall

This is where she pretty much pissed me off when she attacks someone who actually knew what he was talking about.
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Alan @ it's not work, it's gardening! says:
December 16, 2011 at 11:05 am

Glad to see they came up with a reasonable solution! As a bamboo grower I know it’s not a “plant it and forget it” plant, and if it’s ignored for even a couple of years it can quickly become a big problem.

It’s not too difficult to keep it in check though — it requires yearly maintenance (cutting the rhizomes with a spade to keep it from spreading) that must be done every single year.

Many of us find it to be worth the effort though, and applaud the Board’s decision.
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December 21, 2011 at 3:36 pm

Alan, I have to strongly disagree with you. You are one of the very few who even knows a barrier is needed. Most do not. Most of the yellow groove Phyllostachys is invading. Barriers fail fast. Even wikipedia states 40 and 60ml do not hold back a mature grove. The barrier must be installed to specification, or it will fail faster. What happens when you sell your home ? Where is everyone dumping the rhizomes. Any fragment is active and will start an infestation. These must be burned. It only takes one escaped rhizome to invade the neighborhood. This is noxious destructive invasive running bamboo. This is a highly unsuitable plant for a property line planting. When it invades, the horse is already out of the barn. Once it gets under structures, almost impossible to eradicate. So many towns have passed ordinances in the last few months, that I do believe Sag Harbor made a huge mistake, without doing enough research. When the grove is in year 15 to 20 good luck, dont say you were not warned. This invasive is being sold on ebay and craigslist, no barrier information…sorry Alan..when you are wrong you are wrong.
USDA writes Phyllostachys would be their worst if it produced seed. It rapidly forms mono-culture that completely excludes other plant species.South Carolina declares it a severe threat . It cannot even be shipped into Hawaii, nor planted in the ground in Tokyo, because it knows no property lines. It is highly noxious and destructive to gas lines, sewers, septics, foundations, pool, driveways. The evidence is everyplace online. Google :invasive bamboo ordinance, and read. All new. Alan, you are one in a million, and you are dead wrong. I strongly urge Sag Harbor to reaccess the damage and stigma to the towns land, as this is almost impossible to eradicate once established. It will escape into the towns infrastructure and forest , and wetlands. This is a new problem, and a very serious one. The exponential rate of growth is more aggressive each successive year, and is relentless on a mature grove.

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 Post subject: Re: You're next DC area!
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:08 pm 
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Alan_L wrote:
The bamboo-is-evil crusade is starting to spread:

http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/marylan ... lem-042512

Once you see a local news report about bamboo, you know legislation is coming soon.


Well, Alan- maybe that only holds true when the publicity is negative publicity. I bet many people are surprised to learn that bamboo even grows in Missouri. Maybe you could get a local interest news story about your bamboo and you could raise all the positive points about it and you could slip in a little friendly advice about containment and responsible ownership. Sadly, sometimes people need to be told what to think. So, what if the friends of bamboo are as "in your face" as the detractors.


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 Post subject: Re: You're next DC area!
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Good idea Jeff! I'll see what I can do.

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Here's a lie detected where she basically shot herself in the foot. She first claims that she banned someone, and later says that someone ran away, so it doesn't look like she backs up what she says very well, but the problem is that she will never answer your question.

She said the same exact thing about me after she flagged my well written posts, and then falsely accusing me for doing it to her and the pawns back on the first patch article.


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Institute of Invasive Bamboo Research I banned him from the page. Vincent San Cruz Villanis..these sellers cannot believe we FIGURED OUT PHYLLOSTACHYS ! $$$$$


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Institute of Invasive Bamboo Research He has disappeared from the page , maybe he didn't want us to figure it out, he was probably needing rhizomes as inventory to ship.
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Alan_L wrote:
Good idea Jeff! I'll see what I can do.


I think something on facebook, similar to what she is doing here http://www.facebook.com/InstituteOfInva ... ooResearch
would get the word out about all the positive aspects of bamboo, as well as ways to eradicate or contain it.


Even though I've grown some bamboos since 2008, I still haven't had to contain or thrown away any bamboo plant material. It's hard for me to piece together a facebook page on how to control bamboo when my climate does it already.

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 Post subject: Re: You're next DC area!
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In logic a false proposition implies any proposition. Caryn Rickel's falsehoods are taking her down a dangerous path which will not end well. If she follows the usual pattern she will have to accept that there is a secret world conspiracy behind the spread of bamboo. Usually the Illuminati is named as the group and may or may not include reptoid aliens a la David Icke. After all, she has already said bamboo is an invasive species worldwide...

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