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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:52 pm 
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You could say I fantasized about it being her. :lol: But if you watch the video, it shows the woman walking out and that's not Caryn Rickel. I've seen her facebook photo. Darn!


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:56 am 
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Jeff: Igor's Apprentice wrote:
You could say I fantasized about it being her. :lol: But if you watch the video, it shows the woman walking out and that's not Caryn Rickel. I've seen her facebook photo. Darn!


I don't know, change the hair style and it could be her. As far as I know there is only the one picture of her.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:35 am 
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no, that's not her unless her facebook photo is 10 years old, which some people do, so I've heard. I hoped not to think about her for at least a couple of weeks but thats reality. I think she's in the corner of a room hugging her favorite secret bamboo plant after hearing the news out of Huntington, saying " you know I love you, don't you?"


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:37 pm 
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I suspect that if that isn't Caryn Rickel, then it is somebody closely involved with Caryn Rickel's group.

That picture could be old since it seems to be the only picture of her she uses. :?

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There was a dark haired lady who followed after the woman. Could have been Caryn sniffing out trouble.... Must be a bamboo covered knoll in here somewhere... :lol:

In any case, I'm sure Caryn was there storming out of that room in spirit.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:32 am 
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Just posting to poke some holes in some of her research papers for fun. I really like how she has nothing to back up what she claims as facts.

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H.B.5122
The bill should include all running bamboo :genus: Phyllostachys
January 21, 2012
Subject: Phyllostachys Research today and ** book attached here Important **
In an effort to save my land here in Seymour, CT , I am actually having to do this
research to show what Phyllostachys spp. is. I feel that I must share what I have found with you today.
I simply googled, "Hiroshima bomb and Phyllostachys, to try to find the actual research paper
where this is stated. Well I did, and what is attached below is a 75 page book
which you can read here: I have read it all, and my opinion is below also.
Subject: Title : World Bamboo Resources Global Forest Resources Assessment 2005
http://books.google.com/books?id=LaH8YW ... oo&f=false
My opinions after reading the above :( some facts are taken from the above Research book )
1) Research is lacking on Phyllostachys here in the USA, and this book also confirms
that a common methodological approach is missing between countries. From what I can see
22 countries were in this book , while we are not. We have no statistics.The book states
bamboo statistics are poor. I will add Phyllostachys is everyplace in Connecticut, as well
as the other states. In driving on I-95 from Florida back up to Connecticut , I easily
spotted at least 40 infestations.
2) 2 types of bamboo ** monopodial- Phyllostachys spread at a surprising rate./Invasive worldwide
**sympodial-Bambusa: clumping non-invasive
I learned this week that in China , Phyllostachys is ONLY used on plantations, as they
are fully aware of its invasiveness. They do not use it as an ornamental where it is native !
They use other non-invasive bamboo for this purpose. This speaks volumes.
Phyllostachys will be more aggressive here in Connecticut per my document from
James Miller. ( Our climate with the rain, is more similar to its native China.)
This is temperate frost resistant Giant Timber bamboo, not tropical.
3) The book states that bamboo taxonomy is not like other plants. It also
states the dynamics are not yet clearly understood. Here I believe we are just finding out.
There are many towns passing ordinances, and people in every state are desperate for help.
http://www.northjersey.com/news/9539099 ... parks.html
Phyllostachys is not understood, and the sellers do not understand this plant.
This is a highly unsuitable plant for any garden, or urban setting as it will spread to
neighboring property. Containment in the long term is almost impossible.
(as we are seeing as reports are coming in )
4) The amount of Phyllostachys that is seen already growing in Connecticut
indicates that exponentially the USA will have hectares of bamboo.
More and more people are sharing rhizomes, as well as 5 sellers on Conn.Craigslist.
Multitudes of sellers on ebay. No mention of barriers .It will seed, we just do not
know *when. It does spread by water, and disturbance. Connecticut Spreadsheet above.
5) What I am seeing is all yellow groove. Phyllostachys aureosulcata.
It is easy to distinguish from the Phllostachys aurea. All the research done here in the
USA, has lumped them all as aurea. So we need to** know this , and be able to use
those research reports. To prove this is true , please scroll to the 5th page of this link.
(labeled page 203 ) it states most of the Phyllostachys in Illinois was mistakenly
noted as aurea, when in** fact it was proven to be aureosulcata. States how to easily
ID the yellow groove. ( aureosulcata )
http://www.il-acad-sci.org/transactions ... s/9422.pdf
6) I did have the aureosulcata added to EDDPMAP
with the help of John Peter Thompson. We felt I could not begin to log the 100 locations
with yellow groove ( aureosulcata ) in Connecticut until this **defect was corrected.
So far I have logged one which is the invasion on the Merritt Parkway at Exit 47 Southbound.
There is some on the Northbound as well. I was able to load a photo successfully onto EDDPMAP.
http://www.eddmaps.org/report/images/Ph ... rkway2.jpg
7) Our research below states that research is lacking, and we have lumped all the Phyllostachys
under aurea. Here is our research below. There are many errors in it. Yellow Groove came
into the USA much later around * 1907, and was used for erosion,** not an ornamental.
It did not come in through Alabama in 1892, but came in later through Savannah ,Georgia.
There was a Bamboo Quarantine : of 1918. It was only used for erosion.
Even the years between seeding is incorrect.
http://www.fs.fed.us/database/feis/plan ... r/all.html
8) In reading this book above, regarding pests and pathogens: I would guess
we could be in for trouble ? I already have documents from James Miller regarding
histosplasmosis when the workers in the southern states cleared the Phyllostachys
infestations. This was deadly, and is documented. This is due to the black crow roost.
I can say here in Seymour,CT , I have this roost, and they also did in Smithtown,NY.
We are loaded with black crows, that we never had before this infestation on my property.
This is serious in my opinion. Please just ask for the documents which James Miller
had previously sent me, anticipating you would need them **eventually.
Another fact that I don't think is known is that Phyllostachys spp. releases
allelopathic compounds which is a natural herbicide. This explains why
**nothing grows in the under story of bamboo. ( **not even a single weed )
I know of a person whose property is invaded in New Haven, CT ,
who has sent me 21 pictures of the invasion,and in these pictures you can see
that she has had an allergic reaction from this possibly as she tries
to eradicate the invasion each year.
In my opinion to think that the general public will be able to install and maintain barriers
on their own with a sticker or instruction is not going to work.
Most of this bamboo is so easy to propogate, why buy it.
People are sharing rhizomes, and online start up businesses are everyplace.
Here is one link below in particular where people are stating that they cannot find local nurseries
selling it , and Steve ( below ) is selling it online. Extensive operation he has, take a look.
http://stevesbamboogarden.blogspot.com/ ... sions.html
All the reputable local nurseries in my area have told me they
would never sell Phyllostachys. They in fact wonder why it is not on the invasive list.
I did run into one exception, a nursery In Shelton, CT: that when I showed interest in the
nine yellow grooves that he was selling ( tucked way in the back ) he told me most people
just want them to spread, and that he had not sold barriers to anyone all summer.
He told me all I needed to do was water them. He told me he would have to buy barriers
online if I decided I wanted them. When I asked what he had done all year, he told me
all the yellow groove he sold all season in 2011 were without barriers.
He told me all I needed to do was water them, and that he would charge me $50.00 each to plant them.
( his retail price per yellow groove was $90.00 ) I was told they grew to this very tall height
just from when he got them in the spring . These were quite tall.
These were very well tagged, along with other varieties of bamboo in his large nursery in Shelton, CT.
He did tell me his wholesaler on all his bamboo was *Summer Hill, in Madison.
Also on Ebay for $40.00 they will ship to your home a **rhizome pack.
They say "block your neighbors out, just mow where you don't want it".
They do list it as Phyllostachys. They cannot ship Phyllostachys to Hawaii.
Regards,
Caryn Rickel,Seymour


1)I learned this week that in China , Phyllostachys is ONLY used on plantations, as they
are fully aware of its invasiveness. They do not use it as an ornamental where it is native !
They use other non-invasive bamboo for this purpose. This speaks volumes.
How come they have online bamboo nurseries on China with multiple phyllostachys species for sale, and people that grow it on their properties & parks? lol http://www.zhuzi.net/


2)Phyllostachys is not understood, and the sellers do not understand this plant.
This is a highly unsuitable plant for any garden, or urban setting as it will spread to
neighboring property. Containment in the long term is almost impossible.
Is there a single forum member on here who has trouble with containing their bamboo? Also many sellers have decades of growing these bamboos and you really think you understand it better than them? HUBRIS

3)It will seed, we just do not
know *when. It does spread by water, and disturbance.
There have been seeding events on dulcis, nigra, aurea, kwangsiensis, and heteroclada. Where are the reports of a bamboo apocolypse?

4)I already have documents from James Miller regarding
histosplasmosis when the workers in the southern states cleared the Phyllostachys
infestations. This was deadly, and is documented. This is due to the black crow roost.
I can say here in Seymour,CT , I have this roost, and they also did in Smithtown,NY.
We are loaded with black crows, that we never had before this infestation on my property.
BS

5)Another fact that I don't think is known is that Phyllostachys spp. releases
allelopathic compounds which is a natural herbicide. This explains why
**nothing grows in the under story of bamboo. ( **not even a single weed )
More BS

6)Here is one link below in particular where people are stating that they cannot find local nurseries
selling it , and Steve ( below ) is selling it online. Extensive operation he has, take a look.
http://stevesbamboogarden.blogspot.com/ ... sions.html
Gotta love this one when there is a local person who requested bamboo directly from me off my gardening blog, and it is called an extensive operation. Guess she really thinks people will think I'm out there to make a quick buck.

7)All the reputable local nurseries in my area have told me they
would never sell Phyllostachys. They in fact wonder why it is not on the invasive list.
I did run into one exception, a nursery In Shelton, CT: that when I showed interest in the
nine yellow grooves that he was selling ( tucked way in the back )
Every large gardening center I've been to is supplied with at least a couple of the common phyllostachys which usually come very root bound, and are supplied from Monrovia. She really likes to put words in peoples mouths. http://www.monrovia.com/plant-catalog/search.php?type=1

8)They cannot ship Phyllostachys to Hawaii.
Phyllostachys is a temperate bamboo that doesn't thrive in zones 10-12, shipping restrictions, and it is outside of the continental U.S. which are 2 good reasons, not because it can spread faster in tropical climates, http://www.bamboohq.com/wordpress/2007/ ... trictions/

:bom: I hope she comes out with some more interesting facts :bom:
http://www.facebook.com/InstituteOfInva ... ef=tn_tnmn

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:14 pm 
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Caryn Rickel wrote:
In driving on I-95 from Florida back up to Connecticut , I easily
spotted at least 40 infestations.


I wonder how many of those were actually Arundinaria gigantea?

In watching her and other responses I am seeing certain names lurking in the background: Carol Merritt, John Thompson, Season Orris Ciechanowski and Mike Wilcox for example.

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I think we should honor the lady and name the most vigorous new bamboo mutation after her. She's so vigorous. :mrgreen:


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Tarzanus wrote:
I think we should honor the lady and name the most vigorous new bamboo mutation after her. She's so vigorous. :mrgreen:


That's funny. In another thread I was going to suggest we name a form of Japanese Knotweed after her. That way we could tell people "'Caryn Rickel' bamboo is not real bamboo." :lol: Unfortunately, you have to have an individual's permission to name a plant after them.

Anyway, my real reason for posting is I thought I would point out how she is featuring several large photos of large monocultures of lupines. It appears that she is posting them for no other reason than aesthetic ones. Lupines are considered invasive by some organizations, and even if they're not, its hard to argue against such large monocultures of the plants not being environmentally disadvantageous. Seems like a dangerous double standard- Attacking non-invasives for being invasive while glorifying other actual invasives. It just goes to show that like most- she is probably intimidated by the height and speed of growth of bamboo. The lack of pretty flowers probably plays a role as well. If the bamboo she was familiar with was short with nice purple flowers, she would probably be propagating it all over the place. Or, trying to dictate that it must be planted everywhere.


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Jeff: Igor's Apprentice wrote:
Tarzanus wrote:
I think we should honor the lady and name the most vigorous new bamboo mutation after her. She's so vigorous. :mrgreen:


That's funny. In another thread I was going to suggest we name a form of Japanese Knotweed after her. That way we could tell people "'Caryn Rickel' bamboo is not real bamboo." :lol: Unfortunately, you have to have an individual's permission to name a plant after them.


Yeah, but a person could legally change their name to that to make it work, how bout it Jeff?

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I think we should honor the lady and name the most vigorous new bamboo mutation after her. She's so vigorous.


That's funny. In another thread I was going to suggest we name a form of Japanese Knotweed after her. That way we could tell people "'Caryn Rickel' bamboo is not real bamboo." Unfortunately, you have to have an individual's permission to name a plant after them.


Yeah, but a person could legally change their name to that to make it work, how bout it Jeff?


Hell someone must have a female friend named Caryn, who would let her name go to a plant species.

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Yeah, but a person could legally change their name to that to make it work, how bout it Jeff?


You're the knotweed grower, Lance. You change YOUR name. :lol:
Besides, I think I'd make a better Martha or Matilda than a Caryn. I would get really tired of correcting people who were trying to spell my name with a K. It might turn me into some kind of plant nazi.


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foxd wrote:
Caryn Rickel wrote:
In driving on I-95 from Florida back up to Connecticut , I easily
spotted at least 40 infestations.


I wonder how many of those were actually Arundinaria gigantea?

In watching her and other responses I am seeing certain names lurking in the background: Carol Merritt, John Thompson, Season Orris Ciechanowski and Mike Wilcox for example.

Foxd, I have read Carole Merritt Brown's blog occasionally just for kicks and she seems to be quite the native plant enthusiast/exotic plant hater and has dealt with a bamboo "invasion" of her own so she is the perfect pawn for Rickel :)

I say we should name one of the new Kwang cultivars that comes out of the present batch of seedlings, if there is one that's particularly uninteresting, with a very unflattering name and then only WE will actually know it's named after her, an inside joke to endure for years to come :lol:

I have a Kwang seedling, any nominations? :D

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More support for Ms. Rickel.

http://woodbury-middlebury.patch.com/ar ... onnecticut

I've already emailed the author of the article. I'd post a reply but I'm not joining "patch" just to do so.

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OMG! I can't believe they gave such a voice to this CRAZY woman! And her lies!


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