Bambusa textilis var. albostriata

Roy · **Posted:** Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:37 am

Boonut,

Where did you get your Bambusa textilis var. albostriata?

boonut · **Posted:** Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:39 pm

From Robert Saporito. It had small stripes when I got it. Now, most are gone. It is in a 120 gallon pot. The boo looks good, but no stripes to speak of.

needmore · **Posted:** Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:37 pm

Anyone know of the most recent Textilis flowering? Just curious how long this one and the Gracilis form have been around - long enough to be proven cultivars or perhaps environmental conditions lead to the distinctions?

Roy · **Posted:** Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:43 pm

needmore wrote:

Anyone know of the most recent Textilis flowering? Just curious how long this one and the Gracilis form have been around - long enough to be proven cultivars or perhaps environmental conditions lead to the distinctions?

Brad,

The only B. textilis I know of flowering in recent times, and not to confused with the B. Texas texoides, is the flowering at USDA in Miami in the late 1980's. My regular B. textilis is a seedling from that flowering.

Roy · **Posted:** Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:46 pm

boonut wrote:

From Robert Saporito. It had small stripes when I got it. Now, most are gone. It is in a 120 gallon pot. The boo looks good, but no stripes to speak of.

Boonut,

I have some information I would like to post here, but I will have to wait until tonight until I get my culms all lined up in a row, plus do a little searching and researching to refresh my memory banks.

blokker · **Posted:** Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:21 pm

I recently acquired a Bambusa textilis var. albostriata in a 1 gallon pot. It's obviously only a very young plant but I can't see any sign of striping on the culms at this stage so I hope they develop later. Even if it doesn't I'll still end up with a nice textilis so I'll be happy regardless.

Roy · **Posted:** Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:13 am

blokker wrote:

I recently acquired a Bambusa textilis var. albostriata in a 1 gallon pot. It's obviously only a very young plant but I can't see any sign of striping on the culms at this stage so I hope they develop later. Even if it doesn't I'll still end up with a nice textilis so I'll be happy regardless.

blokker,

Click on the image below so that your computer will show a larger picture. Look closely where the rolled up new leaves will be emerging. See the hair like structures (leaf bristles growing off of the leaf auricle)? Would you check closely on your plant and see if your plant has any leaf bristles as in this picture?

blokker · **Posted:** Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:38 am

Roy,

I'll have a close look after work this afternoon and will let you know the findings tomorrow. Am I to assume that these hair like stuctures are to be found on the Bambusa textilis var. albostriata but not to be found on the Bambusa textilis? I'll take a close look at the textilis as well for reference.

Thanks

Roy · **Posted:** Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:50 am

blokker wrote:

Roy,

I'll have a close look after work this afternoon and will let you know the findings tomorrow. Am I to assume that these hair like stuctures are to be found on the Bambusa textilis var. albostriata but not to be found on the Bambusa textilis? I'll take a close look at the textilis as well for reference.

Thanks

Weeeelllll, that's the part I'm trying to get the pieces together before I go on a lengthy tirade. Oops! Sorry you don't know me that well and I promised I would be nice the rest of my life. Well at least nice most of the time. (Just playing with your mind) :wink:

BTW, it doesn't have anything to do with Bambusa textilis.

blokker · **Posted:** Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:26 pm

Roy

Yep, I can confirm that my plant does have the leaf bristles as shown in your picture.

Roy · **Posted:** Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:27 am

Here's the reason I originally asked Boonut where he got his plant:

I originally saw this plant (Picture.1...Bambusa dolichomerithalla 'Silverstripe') in Miami in the late 1980’s. And the name people called it was “B. Doli. Silverstripe”. Within a year or so, I had Mr. Generosity himself, Richard Waldron, bring a pot of it to my house in Tampa as a gift, as he did with so many of his bamboos. And I proceeded to propagate it.

Somewhere around 2000, I begin to notice Robert Saporito had a picture of what looked like B. Doli. Silverstripe on the FCC/ABS web site, but it was labeled something like B. tex. albo-striata or B. albo-leneata. I questioned him about it and he was not familiar with the name B. doli. silverstripe. There was a time known as Pre-Saporito, in bamboo times in Florida, so I could understand him not knowing anything about B. Doli. Silverstripe. And he was in the learning stage and not the know it all stage. But I digress.

Around 2002, Robert Saporito came to my house in Tampa to dig some free Clone X and I showed him my B. Doli. Silverstripe. He seemed to think there was something different between it and B. tex. albo-striata or B. albo-leneata he had, but he didn’t have his in front of him to compare. He took a pot of my B. Doli. silverstripe back to Miami to do a comparison.

If you will go to this page http://www.tropicalbamboo.org/Bambusa.htm and find B.dolichomerithalla 'Silverstripe' you will find this description even today:

Quote:

Dark green culms with lower internodes occasionally striped with white. This species is being tested to determine if it could actually be B.textilis albo-lineata as per McClure 1940.

During 2003 I sent various emails to Robert asking him what his finding were on the comparison of the 2 plants. All he would say was that they were different, but he would give me no explanation as to how they were different.

By 2004, Robert decided that he wasn’t going to communicate with me anymore and has not answered any of my emails since 2004. So I never go an answer from Robert Saporito on how the 2 were different.

Charlie Crowley in Sarasota, Florida told me in 2004, but could have been 2005, that he had a B.textilis albo-lineata and the best I remember he said he bought it from Saporito. (Where Charlie got it from, I’m still trying to verify****). Charlie has previously gotten a pot of B. doli. Siverstripe from me so I knew I would be able to make a good comparison at his place.

**** See this post for correction:
http://bambooweb.info/bb/viewtopic.php?p=24501#24501

I drove to Charlie’s place and made some comparisons of the 2. I posted the comparisons on the Florida Smartgroup Bamboo Forum, but that forum is now gone to bamboo heaven. So here are some of my recollections as I can best recall them.

1..The B. textilis var. albostriata seem to have longer, but narrower leaves than B. doli. S.
2..The B. textilis var. albostriata seemed to be more open clumping than B. doli. S.
3..The B. textilis var. albostriata had lower branch nodes, whereas the B. doli. S. does not have lower branch buds as the culms get larger. I tried to make a point on the Florida forum, when it was still active, that the B. doli. S. acted more like a textilis, with the absence of branch buds on the lower culm and perhaps the B. doli. silverstipe should be the one with textilis in it’s name. Didn’t get any where with that idea either.
4...The B. dol. S. culms seem to be a darker green and the clump seem to have a nicer look to it. The B. tex. albo clump seemed to be a little scraggly with its open habit and clums leaning. But that was just a personal thing and others might disagree.

See Picture. 2...Bambusa textilis var. albostriata

Now here is where the definite different is. The one I sent to Miami with Saporito had the leaf bristles and the one Charlie got in Miami as Bambusa textilis var. albostriata does not. See picture 3 for the the comparison. Left side: Bambusa textilis var. albostriata. Right side: my B. doli. silverstripe.

Now I used to think there was really only one bamboo, but the leaf bristles differences convinced me that there is really 2 which are very similar in appearance of the culm striping.

I’ll stop now. No need to overload you with too much bamboo trivia.

Picture.1...Bambusa dolichomerithalla 'Silverstripe'
http://tinyurl.com/2bppvz <<--more pictures

Picture. 2...Bambusa textilis var. albostriata
http://tinyurl.com/ysto7m <<--more pictures

Picture. 3...Composite image of B. tex.albo (left)/B. doli. Silverstripe (right).

mantis · **Posted:** Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:05 am

Roy, I just want to say that you are great. I absolutely love that you are old enogh (not trying to offend), and that you have enough experience with bamboo, that you are not afraid to speak your mind.

-mike.

Roy · **Posted:** Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:28 am

mantis wrote:

Roy, I just want to say that you are great. I absolutely love that you are old enough (not trying to offend), and that you have enough experience with bamboo, that you are not afraid to speak your mind.

-mike.

Mike,

I really and honestly restrained myself.

ghmerrill · **Posted:** Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:45 am

Roy, you living up to your promise of being nice gives me hope....

:0

seriously, great comparison, and great photos.... (I wish for global warming, I wish for global warming........)

of course, then I would have to trade in most of my runners....

okay, I take it back!

Roy · **Posted:** Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:31 pm

I just got a reply from Kathy Crowley. She said that Charlie got his Bambusa textilis var. albostriata from:

Brent Adrian
BAMBOO UNLIMITED, INC.
5600 SW 48 ST
DAVIE, Florida

Brent has a USDA approved quarantine station and has brought in a lot of bamboo over the years.

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