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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:04 pm 
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Bought Fargesia Murieliae ‘Tauro’ today reduced from £25 to £1.99, although I have Heard of Fargesia Murieliae and many other variations of it I have not heard of Tauro, can anyone enlighten me


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:20 pm 
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murieliae?? robusta surely

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:24 pm 
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A quick google of Fargesia 'Tauro' also suggests it is a robusta rather than a murielae.

By the way there is a very suspicious leaf (the large central one running vertically) which indicates possible bamboo mite damage. See the pic.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:37 pm 
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there is probably one called 'Gallo' too

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:32 am 
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Chris S wrote:
murieliae?? robusta surely

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After talking to Susanne Lucas and others it seems it could be Fargesia Robusta ‘Tauro’ but also suggested pingwu, but definitely agreed it’s Robusta https://www.bigplantnursery.co.uk/plant ... o_347.html


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:36 am 
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johnw wrote:
A quick google of Fargesia 'Tauro' also suggests it is a robusta rather than a murielae.

By the way there is a very suspicious leaf (the large central one running vertically) which indicates possible bamboo mite damage. See the pic.


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Thanks John for your observation, what do I look for if it is and what would you say is best treatment


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:14 am 
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Deane, as you are building up a new collection of bamboos, you really need to get to know the pests to watch out for on the plants you acquire. This could save you an enormous amount of grief in the future.

See http://bamboo-identification.co.uk/html/pests.html

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:52 pm 
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Chris S wrote:
Deane, as you are building up a new collection of bamboos, you really need to get to know the pests to watch out for on the plants you acquire. This could save you an enormous amount of grief in the future.

See http://bamboo-identification.co.uk/html/pests.html

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Yeah definitely Chris, I have spent many hours researching bamboo identification,soil conditions,feeding,etc but not pests, so will definitely start to do my research on pests.
Thanks for the link, I do normally buy my bamboos from reputable bamboo specialists in uk, Netherlands,France and Germany but sometimes buy the odd bamboo from other places, I bought another one from the same place two weeks ago labelled Fargesia murieliae any thoughts on what that is chris


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:04 pm 
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Leaves say murielae, culms say nitida

I'm not usually a gambling man, but I'd put ten bob on that being 'Winter Joy'

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:39 pm 
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Deane - You will notice the leaf in question has a series of rectangular white marks on the upper surface. These marks are blocked by that leaf running diagonally in the photo as luck would have it. Those rectangles correspond to the mite web nest on the underside, you will surely need a hand lens.

I do not know which miticides or pesticides are available to you in the UK but none are remarkably successful over here. One must be extremely vigilant as even reputable nurseries can have a mite problem and ship without either being aware or having done a thorough inspection. Ebay and Amazon sellers are even more likely to be a source of trouble. Your collection could easily be disfigured by one bad decision.

As Steffen has noted in his article on BM they are very prevalent in Hokkaido so cold is not going to kill them. Fire will.

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13c & clouding over.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:07 pm 
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johnw wrote:
Deane - You will notice the leaf in question has a series of rectangular white marks on the upper surface. These marks are blocked by that leaf running diagonally in the photo as luck would have it. Those rectangles correspond to the mite web nest on the underside, you will surely need a hand lens.

I do not know which miticides or pesticides are available to you in the UK but none are remarkably successful over here. One must be extremely vigilant as even reputable nurseries can have a mite problem and ship without either being aware or having done a thorough inspection. Ebay and Amazon sellers are even more likely to be a source of trouble. Your collection could easily be disfigured by one bad decision.

As Steffen has noted in his article on BM they are very prevalent in Hokkaido so cold is not going to kill them. Fire will.

john
13c & clouding over.
I have looked over the boo and can’t see anything mite like but that was with my naked eye but I will check with a hand lens. I will definitely look with hand lens over any new bamboos coming to my collection from now on, thanks again for the heads up


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:14 pm 
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Chris S wrote:
Leaves say murielae, culms say nitida

I'm not usually a gambling man, but I'd put ten bob on that being 'Winter Joy'

Many thanks Chris, are Fargesia easier to id with culm sheaths of new shoots like Phyllostachys?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:22 pm 
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Well I scanned the QR code and this come up which was mine and others thinking http://www.denolf.com/en/fargesia-robus ... -niet-meer


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:05 pm 
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Yes Deane, features of the culm sheaths on new shoots are always very useful for separating species (especially when they have no QR code!) but non-Phyllostachys bamboos are easier to recognize without the new shoots than Phyllostachys. Of course, this gets tougher all the time as people create hybrids...

From your link I see that Belgian nursery uses some other (presumably) gallo y tauro names too, like Fargesia murielae 'Robusta' and Fargesia murieliae 'Rufa', but maybe these are actually more new hybrids we had never heard of before, who knows? They also use different names in their catalogue to the ones on their webpages.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:22 pm 
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Chris S wrote:
Yes Deane, features of the culm sheaths on new shoots are always very useful for separating species (especially when they have no QR code!) but non-Phyllostachys bamboos are easier to recognize without the new shoots than Phyllostachys. Of course, this gets tougher all the time as people create hybrids...

From your link I see that Belgian nursery uses some other (presumably) gallo y tauro names too, like Fargesia murielae 'Robusta' and Fargesia murieliae 'Rufa', but maybe these are actually more new hybrids we had never heard of before, who knows? They also use different names in their catalogue to the ones on their webpages.

Although it’s nice to have a QR code, it would be better the code matched the label, I spotted them too bit strange, It will be interesting watching them grow up though


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