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Author:  akaranus [ Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:05 am ]
Post subject:  is it dendrocalamus asper?

Hi to all, i am new here....bamboo fever caught me few years ago and from that time trying to find big and thick runners and cold hardy bambusa and dendro for my 9a/b zone in Croatia...find this one on ebay, guy from thailand sold it as dendro asper betung hitam, little early but started with first new culm, can someone please confirm that it is d,asper? its little to green for that bamboo i think...
second picture is d.latiflorus, one year in ground, starting to put some huge leaves, looking forward to see new shoots :)

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Author:  Sottozero [ Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:01 am ]
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It's a nice plant, even if you can't confirm the species, I thought it was impossible growing D. asper in Italy but if you can there it should be possible here too.
Could you give me the name of the seller? On eBay I just found seeds and I don't want even try to start from seed with a Dendrocalamus.

Author:  akaranus [ Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:22 pm ]
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Hi Sottozero..unfortunately the seler vanish soon after i bought 3 live plants...as for dendro in italy..you have old clump of dendro giganteus in Palermo in orto di botanico and old clump of asper in Menthon France..those two give me hope to have some dendro in my garden to...i am near Split so if you are near sea in 9b Usda zone you can hve asper with no problem...

Author:  akaranus [ Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:18 pm ]
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8)

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Author:  needmore [ Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:59 pm ]
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I can't speak to your proper ID, check out the photos on this site for comparison, yours looks more colorful than others about the same age but who can say.

I spent a chilly week in Orasac a few years ago, enjoyed the area so much I would consider relocating there, we had some spitting snow but the temp remained above freezing, weather similar to here based on the combination I saw of citrus, chard and kale growing. If you can find them try the D minor amoenus, B oldhamii, B pervariabilis 'Viridistriata', all form of B textilis, Bambusa eutuldoides 'Viridivittata', and the B chungii forms. Perhaps these are hard to get, they are not easy here either.

Author:  akaranus [ Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:37 am ]
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Hi Brad!
yes this bigger shoot is little hairy so it could be asper by some pictures...
o nice, OraĊĦac is little warmer than my place, USDA zone 9b, they have maybe in 5-10 yrs one or two nights downn to 25F, i got that almoast every other year..
thanks for the info about cold hardy species, didnt know about perviarabilis and eutuldoides...textilis is hard to get here, but manage to find oldhamii and planing to have little forest of chungii and minor amoneus :)
oldhami is starting with first culms this year...

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Author:  needmore [ Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:50 pm ]
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My Oldhamii was about the same size/age as yours when I bought it in Feb 2016, finally planted in ground Oct 2017 it is currently pushing new shoots larger than 5cm diameter. I am told that it does not like winter wind due to its large leaves but mine was fine last winter. The B textilis forms and B ventricosa should not suffer winter damage in your area, B multiplex forms are even hardier but I am not so fond of them so only have a couple. From what I am told B chungii will also do fine in your area.

D asper I understand will suffer cold damage at temps much below -1C, D minor can take more cold.

If I find a large pile of money I might move to the Dalamatian coast, perhaps farther south even than Dubrovnik, then grow nice bamboo!

Author:  akaranus [ Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:13 am ]
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yes we all need one pile like that :wink:
i know that will eventualy some dendro will burn to the ground with some winter, but i am humble man, i just need few thick shoots per year nothing else :)
i got young dendro giganteus that burned two winters ago to the ground at one night 22F(last minus like that was winter 50yrs ago), but that summer put few shoots bigger than year before, and this winter was one night 24F it also burned to the ground and it recover very well, waiting to see new culms will it be bigger than last summer...
oldhamii shoots also was damaged a little but nothing serious...
dendro asper and latiflorus were covered in plastic greenhouse and had just minor leaves burn with 24F..and you see above shoot that coming out..
i also am not fan of multiplex, its to bushy and small for me...looking forward to see chungiis when they start to shoot blue culms, got 10 seedlings for now and amoneus also and according to data on the net both can take serious minuses....
i am always trying to push zone and while plants are still young protecting them for first few winters...
with bamboo it will eventualy be a problem with their heights but lower parts will survive and stay strong enough to give me new shoots nex summer..
here my way of protecting :)
http://www.mediterraneannature.com/wint ... or-plants/

Author:  needmore [ Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:56 pm ]
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WOW, amazing paradise you have created, I am quite envious and you should be very pleased with your garden! The links on your website make me want to come back to visit. You have so many beautiful pictures I will have to visit your website often to see them all, I've tried to describe how beautiful Croatia is so my wife will want to visit and now I can just show her your photos.

Author:  akaranus [ Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:35 pm ]
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thanks :) i cant wait to watch the garden when bamboo start do dominate 8)
yes Croatia, especialy coast, have some realy beautiful places... i am glad that you love it :wink:

Author:  akaranus [ Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:38 pm ]
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Sottozero wrote:
It's a nice plant, even if you can't confirm the species, I thought it was impossible growing D. asper in Italy but if you can there it should be possible here too.
Could you give me the name of the seller? On eBay I just found seeds and I don't want even try to start from seed with a Dendrocalamus.


here Sottozero asper in Menthon
http://pseudosasa.canalblog.com/archive ... 75245.html

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Author:  needmore [ Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:17 pm ]
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Sorry to change the thread, here are some photos of the species I suggested that you consider. All of these plants were growing in containers until 10/2017.

Here is Bambusa pervariabilis 'Viridisrtriata' , this plant was a 12 ltr pot mailed to me with the next bamboo below, 2 years ago.

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This was same size in the same box - Bambusa eutuldoides 'Viridivittata'

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This photo has two Dendrocalamus - in the front with the palmate leaves & 2 new shoots is D minor 'Amoenus' mailed to me one year ago in 12 ltr pot, behind it is the unknown Dendrocalamus species mailed 2 years a go in 12 ltr pot.

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Author:  akaranus [ Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:59 pm ]
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thanks, i love to see pictures of species that i can grow! looking forward to see progress with those dendro...
here this one culm is growing, another one is almoast finished..it have this orange colour like latiflorus, who knows what is it at the end....

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Author:  needmore [ Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:05 pm ]
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Looks good, they like to leap up in size pretty quickly, the two yellow forms above are the hardiest yellow forms. I think that Dendrocalamus are a bit hardier than often listed. Last weekend I visited a nursery I like, the owner told me he 'noticed' that a new Dendrocalamus shoot at his house was above a 65' tall oak tree. He lives near me with similar climate, perhaps 3-4 light freezes each year, he could not remember the species, thought perhaps D latifolius.

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