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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:36 pm 
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Hi gentlemen and ladies could you good people give me some suggestions on some KR’s for my climate ,I live in Harwich south England in one of the driest part of uk although you wouldn’t think so, normal no lower that -5c, coastal. I have irrigation. I have many Phyllostachys and Fargesia but only one Borinda CS1046 and was looking to add some to my collection many thanks


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:51 pm 
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At least one of us would like to know what a 'KR' is. (Sorry if im missing something completely obvious).

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 2:48 pm 
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A series of bamboo were collected by Keith Rushforth and those are presently being referred to as KR forms. I think some are landing in the Fargesia genus others perhaps Borinda? Chris I suspect knows the details.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:04 pm 
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wolfedg wrote:
At least one of us would like to know what a 'KR' is. (Sorry if im missing something completely obvious).
sorry wolf for being presumptuous,I thought People on here knew all about them, I only know the same as Brad has kindly replied with


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:58 am 
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Well I must chime in....even though I’m busted and certainly shouldn’t be looking at my iPhone here in Costa Rica....but...


KR 1046 is stunning. I’m not sure if any borinda / fargesia compares to the true blue it gives off..... that being said there are a few I’m growing and steffen is also a good testament becuse he’s growing a few also.

Heres some I’d suggest
4175 (aff papyrifera ),7613, 5287, 5913 are ones ive sourced and I’m expecting to really make and impact in the garden.

What ones are you looking at ?

32 feels like 40c in Samara....


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:12 pm 
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I would not recommend 5913, although it is probably the most hardy of the KRs it grows very untidily, similar to Faresia utilis. 4175 is certainly not related to papyrifera, but I think 7613 could be a papyrifera, at least it looks similar to me (picture attached).
In addition, 6439 and 6791 developed to very big plants in my garden looking similar to 5287. 5177 is different with much shorter rhizome necks and a more Fargesia-like appearance.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:53 pm 
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Mike Bell is growing more than 20 of KR's bamboo introductions in Cornwall, and he wrote about 19 of them, and several other Borinda bamboos in 2 articles in 2011 & 2012 in the UK Bamboo Society Newsletter. These articles were reprinted together in the ABS Magazine June 2012 Vol. 33 Issue 3: 13-20, which is available to ABS members in the Publications section of the ABS website. Many more can be seen growing at Ness Botanic Garden in Cheshire. In 2013 67 KR bamboos were alive there, while 20 had probably died.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:10 pm 
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Steffen,

Excuse me if this has been discussed before but would you rate the Kr 7613 hardier then cs 1046? Are your growing this outside ?

I’ll be in search now of the 6439 and 6791. I was trying to source the 5913 but I’ll take your word on it and pass for that one.

A longer rhizome neck should equal a better spaced out plant would it not ?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:10 am 
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Yes KR 7613 is hardier then 1046. 1046 is to tender for our climate. I tried it outside years ago but it sadly died after only about -12°C. In contrast 7613 is happy outside for many years now. The length of the rhizome neck equals the spacing of the culms.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:02 am 
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Chris S wrote:
Mike Bell is growing more than 20 of KR's bamboo introductions in Cornwall, and he wrote about 19 of them, and several other Borinda bamboos in 2 articles in 2011 & 2012 in the UK Bamboo Society Newsletter. These articles were reprinted together in the ABS Magazine June 2012 Vol. 33 Issue 3: 13-20, which is available to ABS members in the Publications section of the ABS website. Many more can be seen growing at Ness Botanic Garden in Cheshire. In 2013 67 KR bamboos were alive there, while 20 had probably died.

Thanks Chris I will try and get the two articles by Mike Bell, I am not a member of any society as yet but Jane and Andy from The Rodings plantery friends of mine are, and also they are very good friends with Mike Bell so I expect there KR’s come from Mike in the first place


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:14 am 
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steffen wrote:
I would not recommend 5913, although it is probably the most hardy of the KRs it grows very untidily, similar to Faresia utilis. 4175 is certainly not related to papyrifera, but I think 7613 could be a papyrifera, at least it looks similar to me (picture attached).
In addition, 6439 and 6791 developed to very big plants in my garden looking similar to 5287. 5177 is different with much shorter rhizome necks and a more Fargesia-like appearance.
Steffen
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Thanks for the replys Steffen and Kailey, Steffen do you have a picture of 7613 showing the hole plant at all


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:11 pm 
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The only Picture I found is 3 years old and during Winter. The plant is much bigger now.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:02 pm 
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steffen wrote:
The only Picture I found is 3 years old and during Winter. The plant is much bigger now.
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thank you, a very Beautiful bamboo


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:18 am 
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Whew, I'm glad the species and varieties eventually get ID'd/named. Imagine how confusing it would be if they were all just numbers? :shock:

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:20 pm 
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steffen wrote:
The only Picture I found is 3 years old and during Winter. The plant is much bigger now.
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That is lovely! I'm glad it has proved hardier for you than the cs 1046. I'm looking forward to this and others from the KR series becoming available in the U.S.A., however long that takes... :roll:

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