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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:45 pm 
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A fantastic delivery by DHL and uk mail sent from Germany on Monday arrived to me in uk Wednesday before 1 pm, and a big thanks to Jürgen Schmitz at https://www.makino-bamboo.de/de/fargesi ... ext_page=2 some great rare Bamboo's now going to be grown in uk Phyllostachys primotina, Phyllostachys aureosulcata 'argus',Phyllostachys incarnata,Phyllostachys Vivax Huangwenzhu inversa and Phyllostachys aureosulcata Harbin inversa and some lovely bamboo post cards and a copy of bambus journal EBS can't thank you guys more


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:05 am 
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Jürgen is The Man!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:48 pm 
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Although he mentions that they came together, I couldn't tell from his website but did you discuss with him whether or not he thinks the primontina & incarnata are the same bamboo?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:09 pm 
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needmore wrote:
Although he mentions that they came together, I couldn't tell from his website but did you discuss with him whether or not he thinks the primontina & incarnata are the same bamboo?

I didn't Brad but from what Steffen said on primotina tread it seem there different, I think it is Steffen Koop from EBS-D if so I will talk to him and Jürgen and see what there opinion is


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:38 pm 
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Do yours look the same? My plant obtained as primontina even as a juvenile had leaves that were always slightly curled, I think David calls them canoes.

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needmore wrote:
Although he mentions that they came together, I couldn't tell from his website but did you discuss with him whether or not he thinks the primontina & incarnata are the same bamboo?

I have messaged Stefan Koop,Jens Schutte and Jürgen Schmitz and with out talking for them, Stefan thinks they are different and look different to him,Jens said it's a discussion they often have on EBS-D and thinks there different,maybe different clones only and he has seedlings from primotina that flowered in 2013 in Munich, not Heard back from Jürgen as yet, it seem a bit of a grey area,have you got both Brad? Do you think there different? I have just planted mine in my bamboo nursery but I will look closely tomorrow


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:08 pm 
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This is what Jürgen said "P. primotina and P. incarnata are not the same plant. You can find the information that they are the same in one book, but here and in some other gardens in Belgium and in the Netherlands they are totally different"


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Great choices. Happy growing.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:29 am 
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It does not matter much, but in this thread
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=7515
it was me (Steffen Greiner from EBS), Stefan Koop is also in the EBS-D ;-)
Jürgen, Jens, Stefan, and I, we all have the same opinion about the primotina/incarnata issue, although they are described as being the same plant in the "Flora of China" from 2006.
Best, Steffen


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:50 pm 
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steffen wrote:
It does not matter much, but in this thread
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=7515
it was me (Steffen Greiner from EBS), Stefan Koop is also in the EBS-D ;-)
Jürgen, Jens, Stefan, and I, we all have the same opinion about the primotina/incarnata issue, although they are described as being the same plant in the "Flora of China" from 2006.
Best, Steffen

Sorry Steffen I was being presumptuous, it seems your name is even spelt different my apologies, Brad i have had a look today and even my juvenile ones look different, I will take some pics when they start shooting next spring


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:03 pm 
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Both good and sad to learn, I only have the Primontina but always wanted Incarnata so I thought perhaps I had it! As I said mine has slightly curled leaves so whichever that one is, I have it.

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Primotina. And also the shape of the leaves should be different: long and less wide compared to other Phyllostachys.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 1:45 pm 
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Yes, long and narrow, the plant looks slightly stressed when not.

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