The state of Connecticut eyeing bamboo for invasive status

stevelau1911 · **Posted:** Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:57 pm

foxd wrote:

I just found this article.

http://www.independentsentinel.com/2012/02/brookhaven-towns-criminalization-of-bamboo-plants-in-residents-yards/

I added my response to help Sarah Noble back her noble cause :lol:

foxd · **Posted:** Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:44 pm

Guess who turns up in this article spouting her usual misinformation!

http://bethel.patch.com/articles/a-panda-a-day-might-keep-the-bamboo-away-but-not-likely-in-ct

bamboothew · **Posted:** Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:59 pm

I see that comments are already being deleted :roll:

This article really shows a lack of knowledge, not the least of which is referring to bamboo as "trees", that drives me crazy!

foxd · **Posted:** Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:25 pm

bamboothew wrote:

I see that comments are already being deleted :roll:

This article really shows a lack of knowledge, not the least of which is referring to bamboo as "trees", that drives me crazy!

I notice that the lack of knowledge really shows on Caryn Rickel's part. The article is striving for a balanced presentation of both sides, but if one side is unbalanced...

I am reminded of the Fable of the Duck.

Jeff: Igor's Apprentice · **Posted:** Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:23 pm

Quote:

chokes all native plants and release a natural herbicide. Nothing else grows in a bamboo forest.

Never heard of a natural herbicide.. is there any truth to this at all?

bamboothew · **Posted:** Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:54 pm

Foxd, thanks for the link: the fable of the duck is quite applicable to some folks I know

Jeff, some plants actually do that, I think it's called allelopathy, but bamboos don't do that as far as I know.

Btw, Jeff, I just noticed that we're practically neighbors! Howdy

Jeff: Igor's Apprentice · **Posted:** Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:59 pm

bamboothew wrote:

Jeff, some plants actually do that, I think it's called allelopathy, but bamboos don't do that as far as I know.

Btw, Jeff, I just noticed that we're practically neighbors! Howdy

Oh yes, I'm familiar with things like juglone from Black Walnut trees, I had just never heard such a thing said about bamboo, and wondered if it was just blatantly bad information.

Yes, we're not too far apart. I wish I had your growing zone advantage when it comes to bamboo though. There are so many boos with a minimal hardiness of 0. We don't get there often, but its a possibility here, but not for you.

Jeff: Igor's Apprentice · **Posted:** Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:55 am

So, I've been searching and there are a few references to allelopathy in bamboo.

There's even thread about it on this website.
http://www.bambooweb.info/bb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4945

But, the statement "Nothing else grows in a bamboo forest." has to be somewhat of an overstatement. Or, at least comparisons between any other situation where a heavy layer of mulch would naturally exist should be made.

foxd · **Posted:** Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:03 pm

I've grown other plants with bamboo and they seemed to do at least fine. At one point I planted a chili pepper plant with one, it grew at least four foot tall and produced more chilis than all the rest of the plants combined. :shock:

I've also grown scarlet runner beans in with bamboo. Also I had some Yellow Goove spread into an area that had some phlox that was barely surviving anyway. Years later I cut the Yellow Groove down and there was the phlox. I now have phlox coming up in the 'Spectabilis'.

bamboothew · **Posted:** Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:03 pm

Jeff: Igor's Apprentice wrote:

bamboothew wrote:

Jeff, some plants actually do that, I think it's called allelopathy, but bamboos don't do that as far as I know.

Btw, Jeff, I just noticed that we're practically neighbors! Howdy

Oh yes, I'm familiar with things like juglone from Black Walnut trees, I had just never heard such a thing said about bamboo, and wondered if it was just blatantly bad information.

Yes, we're not too far apart. I wish I had your growing zone advantage when it comes to bamboo though. There are so many boos with a minimal hardiness of 0. We don't get there often, but its a possibility here, but not for you.

Yeah, anything below 5f is a 20 or 30 year event here. I also live very close to the Oconee nuclear reactor's heatsink so I have added protection, I'm thinking that in the long-run it'll be great for the boo!

dependable · **Posted:** Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:56 am

I don't see signs of allelopathy in the old groves of yellow grove around here, the decades, may be even century old grove we reduced last year had a big japanese red maple hidden in it, still alive, that the owner was not even aware of.

foxd · **Posted:** Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:19 pm

Yeah, the important thing is to realize that Caryn Rickel is employing a technique know as the Gish Gallop which involves spewing so much wrong information, lies and half-truths that the opponents can't answer them all effectively. In the last article alone Rickel tells at least twenty lies or half-truths.

Also she confuses rhizomes and roots, shoots and rhizome buds, culms and trees, etc.

stevelau1911 · **Posted:** Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:18 pm

http://huntington.patch.com/articles/te ... ard-agenda

Looks like in Huntington, the removed the discussion about bamboo because giving people huge fines, and putting them in jail for growing bamboo, or having it in their yard when they moved in is just silly.

foxd · **Posted:** Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:35 pm

I wonder if the one woman eho stormed out of the meeting was Caryn Rickel?

bamboothew · **Posted:** Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:45 pm

Foxd, I was wondering the same thing! I would be willing to bet, were I willing to bet

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