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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:15 pm 
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If she follows the pattern of another crazy who founded an "institute" and produced reams of mis-information and lies, she may at some point start advising people to kill their pets. I'm not saying she will do this, I'm just concerned that she might do it.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:51 pm 
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She's encouraging people who have "invasions" or are concerned about the issue to contact their state representatives to demand a ban. She's still hoping to have a ban passed in CT, even though it didn't work last time. I've been contacting lawmakers to give the other side of the issue, usually including many links and facts to back up the debunking of the most common misinformation.

She's been playing up and writing more about the most ridiculous misinformation, two of which I mentioned on page 16 - the having to burn rhizomes as hazardous waste, and that it grows in standing water and spreads by water. The other one she seems to be dragging up is that bamboo breeds West Nile virus. All blatantly untrue.


Well, the good news is that she is losing the lawsuits that she has filed in CT and that is costing her money. Though she has been representing herself, from what I have read and heard, that is actually making herself look like a complete idiot in court. Her attempts to get bamboo listed as an invasive plant statewide in CT are failing, as can be seen online from posted State of CT documents. So for those reasons, she seems to be back to local and town level politics, and having her small publication disinformation written as she seems to have some local media connections. She of course also have been spreading her misinformation onto other gullible types online, who seem to want to follow her anywhere.

We need to discredit her as a 'specialist', and discredit her shoddy scientific 'evidence.' So, if you have not done so already, reply to the local posts online where her disinformation is listed, and post replies that she has no credentials in biology or horticulture, and is merely on a witch hunt for her own personal and misguided reasons and has lost legal cases in court and tied up the state in needless time wasting. Spread the word. Also those in the surrounding states, especially in NY, NJ, PA and MD need to push back on all of her dis- and mis-information and credentials. Either confront the publishers themselves, dispute her claims in local and town meetings and debates, or discredit what they are posting of her's in any local press and online. For example, the misleading photo of bamboo on the article where the governor of NY signed the bill that NY will ban invasives, when in fact bamboo is not listed in the state of NY as an invasive. Complain loudly to that publication for publishing false and misleading information.

There are also the loads of crap that she has stated as testimony in CT, the misleading stuff she has posted on her web site and on her Facebook site (rather easy to dispute the 'facts' she has posted there), and the misleading attempts to make it look like she is in bed with politicians in CT. I would write any politician that has put a "like" on her Facebook page and slam her as a fraud and for them for liking it. It will not take long for them to become wary of her. The idea is to debunk her as a madwoman on a witch hunt with no valid credentials, and then no politician will want anything to do with her.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:26 pm 
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ShmuBamboo wrote:
Alicat59 wrote:
She's encouraging people who have "invasions" or are concerned about the issue to contact their state representatives to demand a ban. She's still hoping to have a ban passed in CT, even though it didn't work last time. I've been contacting lawmakers to give the other side of the issue, usually including many links and facts to back up the debunking of the most common misinformation.

She's been playing up and writing more about the most ridiculous misinformation, two of which I mentioned on page 16 - the having to burn rhizomes as hazardous waste, and that it grows in standing water and spreads by water. The other one she seems to be dragging up is that bamboo breeds West Nile virus. All blatantly untrue.


Well, the good news is that she is losing the lawsuits that she has filed in CT and that is costing her money. Though she has been representing herself, from what I have read and heard, that is actually making herself look like a complete idiot in court. Her attempts to get bamboo listed as an invasive plant statewide in CT are failing, as can be seen online from posted State of CT documents. So for those reasons, she seems to be back to local and town level politics, and having her small publication disinformation written as she seems to have some local media connections. She of course also have been spreading her misinformation onto other gullible types online, who seem to want to follow her anywhere.

We need to discredit her as a 'specialist', and discredit her shoddy scientific 'evidence.' So, if you have not done so already, reply to the local posts online where her disinformation is listed, and post replies that she has no credentials in biology or horticulture, and is merely on a witch hunt for her own personal and misguided reasons and has lost legal cases in court and tied up the state in needless time wasting. Spread the word. Also those in the surrounding states, especially in NY, NJ, PA and MD need to push back on all of her dis- and mis-information and credentials. Either confront the publishers themselves, dispute her claims in local and town meetings and debates, or discredit what they are posting of her's in any local press and online. For example, the misleading photo of bamboo on the article where the governor of NY signed the bill that NY will ban invasives, when in fact bamboo is not listed in the state of NY as an invasive. Complain loudly to that publication for publishing false and misleading information.

There are also the loads of crap that she has stated as testimony in CT, the misleading stuff she has posted on her web site and on her Facebook site (rather easy to dispute the 'facts' she has posted there), and the misleading attempts to make it look like she is in bed with politicians in CT. I would write any politician that has put a "like" on her Facebook page and slam her as a fraud and for them for liking it. It will not take long for them to become wary of her. The idea is to debunk her as a madwoman on a witch hunt with no valid credentials, and then no politician will want anything to do with her.


I know Senator Blumenthal from the numerous fundraisers and parades the area fire departments participate in. I just wrote him with my proof. He used to be the Attorney General (I think) here in CT, I wouldn't be surprised if he asked that office to do their own investigation and report back to him their findings.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:28 pm 
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foxd wrote:
If she follows the pattern of another crazy who founded an "institute" and produced reams of mis-information and lies, she may at some point start advising people to kill their pets. I'm not saying she will do this, I'm just concerned that she might do it.



Surprised she hasn't killed off my Newfi yet !!! She did however kill her lawsuit !! thanks for your support D.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:33 pm 
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I read the article from the newspaper. For once Rickel is speechless: "Rickel, reached Wednesday via e-mail, declined to comment on Judge Keegan’s ruling."

It's amazing how vocal she is at any other time except today.
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http://valley.newhavenindependent.org/a ... o_lawsuit/


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:08 am 
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FabricHog wrote:
I'm confused.

If the state’s Invasive Species Council hasn't found this bamboo to be invasive what are the Legislators going to ban as being invasive.

Like, doesn't the Council have to make it "invasive" first in order for State and Local Legislators to do anything about it? :confused4:


This is the CT state plant invasive species list:

http://www.eddmaps.org/ipane/ctcouncil/ ... t_List.htm

Notice that no bamboo species are listed on it. So one has to wonder how Ms. R. can get away with calling bamboo, and particularly the genus Phyllostachys, "invasive," when in fact it is not listed as such in her state? Similar in NY, where it is not listed as such either, yet her web site and several of her 'sham' news articles imply that bamboo will be banned in the state of NY by the new invasive species laws taking effect there next year.

Smoke and mirrors...

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:30 am 
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Not only that, but actually posting photos of people's property, in some cases without permission, to a website for invasive species, EDDmaps. For a species that isn't on the invasive list!

Edited to add, I just noticed your post was also from EDDmaps. If you go to their pages for distribution maps and look up phyllostachys aureosulcata you'll see many listings in CT. All from one person. Even though it isn't on the invasive list.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:33 am 
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And believe me, I asked why they allowed postings of a plant not on the invasive list on a website specifically for invasive plants. I was told that it wasn't on the list but that it should be. Real scientific.

Here's what it says at this link (http://www.eddmaps.org/tools/stateplants.cfm?id=us_ct) - "Please note that all of the species may not be a problem in Connecticut but are exotic to the U.S. and listed as a problem somewhere in the U.S."

Sound familiar?

Listings for phyllostachys aureosulcata - http://www.eddmaps.org/distribution/uss ... ?sub=55473
Listings for phyllostachys bissetii - http://www.eddmaps.org/distribution/uss ... ?sub=61227


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:00 am 
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I am thinking of founding the Institute for Promoting & Growing Bamboo, the IPGB, or something similar in name. It would be a worldwide organization open to membership for anyone that is growing, harvesting, or manufacturing or otherwise involved or interested in using bamboo for whatever reason, for landscapers, the plant nursery industry, and anyone interested in the study of bomboo and/or the promotion of bamboo. One of its primary goals would be to counter the false claims made by the likes of Ms. R. and put forth factual information about bamboo. Unlike the ABS; another of its primary goals would be to lobby against bamboo bans and the passing of laws against planting or growing bamboo. Another aspect would be to advise people in starting bamboo plantations and/or farms, and for the promotion of the bamboo industry in the US and worldwide. Another goal would be to get the US import ban dropped on bamboo.

I am not only a bamboo specialist and grow over 50 species of bamboos, I have a bamboo nursery and I have been growing Phyllostachys, Semiarundinarias, Pseudosasas and Hibanobambusas for over 40 years. I am an expert in bamboo propagation, bamboo removal, bamboo location and species selection, bamboo planting, and I have been to over 100 different bamboo plantations, specimen gardens, groves and/or nurseries in the US west. I have certificates in Ornamental Horticlture and Silviculture, and I have been a plant nursery owner, a professional arborist and professional landscaper with several businesses in both California and Oregon. I have been invloved on several projects at the state and county level with the removal of truely invasive plant species in the state of Oregon, as well as habitat restoration. I have thousands of bamboo photographs I have also written the -as yet to be published book-: Phyllostachys and Related Genera of Bamboo . And I am really tired of seeing the likes of Ms. Caryn Rickel with her name pasted next to 'specialist' when in fact she obviously does not know the slightest thing about bamboo, invasive plant species in New England, or about anything else in the plant kingdom. She is a disgrace to the horticultural industry as a whole and at best a complete fraud.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:05 am 
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If you started an institute I would do anything in my power to help spread the word and encourage it in any way I could. I wanted to do something similar, but I'm still really new at all this. I've done a lot of learning in the past year, but nowhere near the amount necessary. Please let us know if you or someone else do something like this!!


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ShmuBamboo wrote:
She is a disgrace to the horticultural industry as a whole and at best a complete fraud.



I would re-phrase to read: "She is an afront to the horticultural industry as a whole and at best a complete fraud" as she has no horticultural credentials whatsoever.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:48 pm 
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ShmuBamboo wrote:
I am thinking of founding the Institute for Promoting & Growing Bamboo, the IPGB, or something similar in name. It would be a worldwide organization open to membership for anyone that is growing, harvesting, or manufacturing or otherwise involved or interested in using bamboo for whatever reason, for landscapers, the plant nursery industry, and anyone interested in the study of bomboo and/or the promotion of bamboo. One of its primary goals would be to counter the false claims made by the likes of Ms. R. and put forth factual information about bamboo. Unlike the ABS; another of its primary goals would be to lobby against bamboo bans and the passing of laws against planting or growing bamboo. Another aspect would be to advise people in starting bamboo plantations and/or farms, and for the promotion of the bamboo industry in the US and worldwide. Another goal would be to get the US import ban dropped on bamboo.

I am not only a bamboo specialist and grow over 50 species of bamboos, I have a bamboo nursery and I have been growing Phyllostachys, Semiarundinarias, Pseudosasas and Hibanobambusas for over 40 years. I am an expert in bamboo propagation, bamboo removal, bamboo location and species selection, bamboo planting, and I have been to over 100 different bamboo plantations, specimen gardens, groves and/or nurseries in the US west. I have certificates in Ornamental Horticlture and Silviculture, and I have been a plant nursery owner, a professional arborist and professional landscaper with several businesses in both California and Oregon. I have been invloved on several projects at the state and county level with the removal of truely invasive plant species in the state of Oregon, as well as habitat restoration. I have thousands of bamboo photographs I have also written the -as yet to be published book-: Phyllostachys and Related Genera of Bamboo . And I am really tired of seeing the likes of Ms. Caryn Rickel with her name pasted next to 'specialist' when in fact she obviously does not know the slightest thing about bamboo, invasive plant species in New England, or about anything else in the plant kingdom. She is a disgrace to the horticultural industry as a whole and at best a complete fraud.




Now that's a resume ! S. You I will take seriously, her not at all


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:03 am 
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bambooed wrote:

Now that's a resume ! S. You I will take seriously, her not at all


Well, that is just my horticultural background. I am also a degreed engineer and I was once a gourmet chef in Carmel, CA. I first got into landscaping after I quit restaurants. I got my horticultural training at night school, which launched me into finishing my AS and BSEE degrees and becoming a computer design engineer for 15 years. That allowed me to retire early, move to a sheep farm near Eugene, and again persue my interests in bamboo, orchids, roses, and trees, and I got my cert. in silviculture at OSU while I was there managing an 105 acre mixed species tree stand in the coast range. I also was involved in several stream restoration projects, old growth oak restoration projects, and I got involved in a lot of blackberry, scotch broom, English hawthorne and and bull thissel invasive plant removal projects with the county. All the while I have been growing bamboos and cymbidium orchids. I also have had several large rose gardens and I was once involved in the ARS and AARS (many of my articles on growing roses have been published in several rose magazines). In the past 8 years or so I have been visiting various bamboo sites and meeting with many local west coast bamboo growers and advising them on how to improve their operatins. I started working on the bamboo book when the economy crashed in '08. And of course my bamboo collection continues to grow...

Oh yes, and I am training all of my bamboo rhizomes, especially the Phyllostachys, to grow toward CT! BTW: I have some Semiarundinaria okuboi that I would be willing to ship to CT... at cost. :D

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